"We've got to do better, and we must do better," summed Lockie Phillips in dialogue with Becks Nairn during the brilliant [April 4, 2024] episode that introduced me to the Emotional Horsemanship podcast. By this point in their conversation I was nearly in tears, feeling for once so deeply affirmed in my own pursuit of ethical horsemanship the past several years that looks very much like doing a whole lot of nothing compared to the conventional and often coercive "train harder, do more" horsemanship I'd learned as a youth -- and that I too often see is still being pushed by countless professionals influencing today's ambitious young riders. If other episodes of this podcast likewise echo themes relating how modern science, kind empathy and educated feel honor our horses and yield secure horse-human relationships, then we WILL do better by horses. Highly recommend picking an episode, setting ego aside, and diving in for a worthwhile listen.