I first learned of Sailor Jerri when she was interviewed on one of my other favorite podcasts *unladylike!* Her message and experience was so moving and her approach to dog training so inspiring, that I started following her on Instagram even though my family hadn’t even started considering becoming dog owners! But now that we are in the process of searching for the best shelter dog for our family, I started listening to unPACKed. And after listening to Episode 3, I am so relieved I did! I was in the process of trying to convince my family we should adopt a 1.5 year old cattle dog/blue heeler mix but have now realized she would not have been happy in our tiny fenced yard in urban Massachusetts. I love the intake process that Jerri and Mattison use, their clear and simple explanations, and their heartfelt concern for all parties. This is by far the most informational dog training troubleshooting podcasts out there!

I laughed so hard and so much listening! Thank you for HOW you do what you do—the way you presented your expertise and perspective with empathy and understanding’s everything. I’ve felt so seen. I’m so blessed to be a part of this community!

This is a must listen. These ladies know what they are doing and how to explain in simple terms!